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Reply. Forum Rules and Guidelines. 4" @ 50 yds with Alliant and about 3 " with Blackhorn. Apply a light coating of Rem™ Oil to all parts. 1 of 3 Go to page. Not a fan. Remington Model 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader . Copyright © 2000-2020 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. I'm starting to think they are not good quality. I’ve got the laminate version of the rifle and I’m using Federal BorLoks and the Remington Accutips with BH209. I watched the video of the hog killing and they didn't even show the kill?................crap of a video. Mag. Amazing rifle. 2 3 A Tradition of Performance and Safety. Go. Remington then paired this innovative new system with a Model 700 receiver/ a vault of strength and the most trusted in bolt-action history. The Remington Ultimate Muzzleloader is badass the other you listed I can't speak for because I don't own one. I have tried everything, different bullets, 5 powders and other primers. First, I dont care much for Sabots. Ive seen it happen to several of them and Rem is beginning to stop warranty work on them if you are shooting Blackhorn. Easy enough blood trail to follow though. This muzzleloader will be shooting a 250gr Parker Balistic Extreme bullet at approx. A .223 would be great however. Muzzleloader Forum . I get fliers for no reason to make mattes worse. I hold-true to 150 yards or less and powder volumes to match it, during muzzleloader season. Updated 9/24/2014. I wonder how much of a kick you get with 200 grains of powder. Love the Steiner Nighthunter Xtreme scope. Passed up a few small bucks. Overall I believe it will be a successful failure at best, it will sell to one that have to have the latest/new fangled trinket, but once they figure out what happens when I have to replace primers or purchase costly replacements? Apr 21, 2014 #1 BigD_625 New Member. Personally, I judge distances real well. In 2014 Remington entered the muzzleloading market with their modified version of the classic Remington 700. Got my Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader out to the range today. Next door in MS you can't give MLs away. Just more parts to get the same ole dirty as a regular bp gun and harder to keep clean, despite their claims. Remington Model 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader . There may be something wrong with our 700 if it is that tight. My dad bought this sometime in the mid 1990’s, when we were still living in Nebraska. It is too light of a gun for these calibers. This rifle offers a higher level of performance and accuracy than any other muzzleloader on the market. As a bonus, the Ultimate™ Ignition System allows the rifle to be cleaned without removing the breech plug. ScoutLook Editor Josh Dahlke introduces the new Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader. While most of the really popular muzzleloaders these days (even … My scope is a Leupold Ultimate Slam 3x9x40mm. Remington has never recommended Blackhorn 209 in the RUML. I have read a lot about the Remington Ultimate Muzzleloader and associated problems. Although , very few have had problems with them and I would be happy if I could get 4" @ 100yds at this time. I would de risking a wounded animal with the groups I am getting at 50 yds. THE BARREL IS FREE FLOATED FROM THE FACTORY. just following the lead of cva Thompson center and traditions. Yep. 1 of 3 Go to page. Pm me if you want pics or text at 5404305218, I bought the bullet, so to speak, and bought an Ultimate also. Mine is right in my hot little hands and I can easily slip a dollar bill all the way from the receiver to butt end of stock and it is the same as when I took it out of the box. I am racking my brain trying to get my Encore and TC Impact to shoot decent. All of the notable custom manufactures in the industry that are building some sort of long range muzzleloader are using this basic system of brass case ignition and multiple pellet ignition. I think they are not a good idea. Built on the proven Model 700 centerfire receiver, this bolt-action inline muzzleloader boasts a 300-yard lethal range. I've seen lots of bucks, but all smaller. Ignition System. Forums > Michigan Hunting > Firearms > Muzzleloaders > Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader Discussion in ' Muzzleloaders ' started by ENCORE , Aug 30, 2014 . If they weren't going to make it smokeless why not build it on a 783 action to lower the price? I have hopes for a New Mexico Elk hunt next year, I know a landowner who says he's got bulls and a license for me. The report is under “Remington Model 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader Frequently Asked Questions.” To the OP, I owned a first generation Remington 700 Muzzleloader. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The only difference from the Ultimate is the ignition system. The first time I realized this was the day I shot my first deer with this Remington 700 muzzleloader. Seems they make it hard to keep muzzloading easy. Forums > Michigan Hunting > Firearms > Muzzleloaders > Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader Discussion in ' Muzzleloaders ' started by ENCORE , Aug 30, 2014 . That said, I believe this new Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader is a fine gun. The Campfire. My ultimate Muzzleloader shoots holes through holes at 200 yards with a 250 sabot 4 Triple 7 pellets I never really messed with any other load because it shoots so well. Traditions Vortek Strikerfire LDR. Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader Loads. In 1816 Eliphalet Remington was confident he could make a flintlock that was as good or better than any he could buy. Remington introduced the Model 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader several years ago as ground-up redesign with claims of 300-yard accuracy and power driven by a new charging system. I decided to purchase the Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader to extend the reach of my ethical shot with a significant increase in kinetic energy. I just put the Arrowhead breech plug in my Rem Ultimate muzzleloader a month ago after reading what Encore said about voiding the warranty should I use BH209 with factory plug. It starts with our U.M.L. I was never a fan of the bolt action on the Remington 700ML. The new rifle was revolutionary, in that it could handle up to 200 grains of powder and used unique pre-primed casings for ignition. The tested Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader is a superb shooter out of the box, with no suspicion of hang-fires or anything less than instant ignition with Blackhorn 209. 2950fps using up to 78gr of IMR4198 with a 30 inch barrel. Lost in the woods. Much of the departure revolves around the new ignition system. I also currently own a Ultimate Firearms, Ultimate Muzzleloader (predecessor to the Remington) and a Bad Bull. In the meantime, the creation of BH209 has brought the performance of "non-smokeless" muzzleloaders closer to the "smokeless", and I'm sure BH209 has reduced the demand for smokeless muzzleloaders. That is what they should have done so we could just cut a .473 dia. Last thing i need however is to dump another thousand bucks in a gun. That should be a big seller for them, ya right. Muzzleloader Forum . I am reluctant to ever change guns but am switching to the Remington Ultimate. How much are the primer cases? The Remington® 700 Ultimate™ Muzzleloader is quick and easy to clean with its stainless steel, satin-finished barrel, and Bell & Carlson attractive, black composite stock. You are using an out of date browser. THE CAMPFIRE. It may not display this or other websites correctly. This week, we’re taking a closer a look at the Remington Model 700 LSS Ultimate Muzzleloader. Remington Ultimate muzzleloader. JavaScript is disabled. NOTE: The bolt assembly should be lubricated with Rem™ Oil instead of Remington Wonder Lube paste for black powder. The The Remington 700 ultimate boasts: accuracy to 300 yards... Having said that, my comfort zone with the muzzleloader (at least for now) is 200 yards. I'm not sure why they didn't make it smokeless. I avr. Just watched a TV show where they took a muledeer with the ultimate muzzleloader at 315 yards. The Remington 700 Ultimate is a better gun, as it fixes the numerous design flaws of the Michigan Ultimate that are breechplug and primed brass related. Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader. Remington is just following the lead of the experts in the industry . Thread starter BigD_625; Start date Apr 21, 2014; 1; 2; 3 ... New Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader. It's sort of like putting lipstick on a pig..................... What are they thinking? I’ll take 700 shipped. Has leupold rings and bases. Also , I never got near the groups you are getting. Thread starter BigD_625; Start date Apr 21, 2014; 1; 2; 3 ... New Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader. Did get to take it for a test drive on a song dog. Youth Forum. A bit high but I think I can get one cheaper. barrel for my Encore. I sighted in my Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader today using 120 grains by volume of Blackhorn 209, combined with the new Federal 270g Muzzleloading bullet. The Welcome Mat. Save Share. Todays pro hunters and Accura break model guns are much nicer and with the new primed brass ignition on the REM 700, it's even nicer yet. (Photograph by Randy Wakeman) These three are the most accurate projectiles in my Remington 700 Ultimate muzzleloader. Next Last. Politics. Referred to as a UML Ignition System (the “UML” standing for Ultimate Muzzleloader), it uses cut-down .308 cases primed with Remington 9½ magnum primers. The same applies when I "once-in-a-while" bring my muzzleloader to the rifle zones for Michigan's Nov 15-30th rifle season/zone. He has done a lot of testing of the Remington Ultimate. At 315 yards my muzzleloader bullet would bounce about 5 times from my CVA . HUNTING. I ask cause it seems like they purposefully made the diameter different so you can't just make them out of a 308 case or something. Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader at the range, Re: Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader at the range. Please Read Before Registering. It lends itself to putting in a "third" pillar just forward of the trigger guard. C. ... A forum community dedicated to Smith & Wesson firearm owners and enthusiasts. His confidence was well-founded. As time goes by, Remington 700 Ultimate owners will naturally come up with their own favorite loads, tailored to their individual rifles … not impressed but not surprised from Remington now days haven't been impressed by them for a long time. This buck was running with another smaller buck this morning @125 yards. $659.99 pl ...Click for more info Reply. I will bet that a bunch end up with smokeless barrels put on them. The folks at Blackhorn 209 will be publishing "Remington Model 700 Ultimate Only" specific loads and velocities in the future. That's nice to hear Skeen. Rifle is used, has some handling marks and blemishes from being used. New Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader. I mounted up a Steiner Nighthunter Xtreme 2-10x50 I bought from Doug. The result allows the shooter to load up to 200 grains of powder for increased range, energy, and on-game performance. The model 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader, like previous Model 700 black powder rifles, is built on the time-tested Remington 700 action and differs only in its use of a muzzle-loading barrel. Model 700™ Ultimate Muzzleloader 150267_REM_CS6.indd 1 5/12/15 8:54 AM. Was thinking same. Remington 700 7mm Rem. Well, no deer, yet. If not, then the Ultimate is a better deal as you already have a good stock. Bore looks good and will make someone a great hunting package. Thread starter BigD_625; Start date Apr 21, 2014; 1; 2; 3; Next. The Ultimate Muzzleloader uses a closed breech system that provides a cleaner and hotter ignition than traditional muzzleloading rifles. Jun 22, 2016 Go. case 1" long or something and use those. The breeching system works like a charm and is easily the handiest, easiest to use, cleanest breeching array of any affordable muzzleloader on the market today. 700 then you might come up cheaper! What do you like about the 700 over the Encore? I was looking at these muzzleloaders and they were $969.00 . Any ides off hand where? First, the Remington is a great muzzleloader. I'm pleased with the performance of the Remington Premier AccuTip bullets. I decided to purchase the Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader to extend the reach of my ethical shot with … Clean all parts with Remington All-Natural Bore Cleaner and dry with a clean cloth. with a Leupold VX-II 3-9x50. From the left: Barnes Original #457010 Semi-Spitzer FB .458 300 grain, Remington 250 grain Accu-Tip, and the Parker 300 grain .451 Match Hunter. I just put the Arrowhead breech plug in my Rem Ultimate muzzleloader a month ago after reading what Encore said about voiding the warranty should I use BH209 with factory plug. Shooting 200 grains of Triple7 pellets and 250 grain Remington Premier AccuTip bullets. Then go with one of Boyd's stocks. THE WELCOME MAT. I have one like you are referring to, but Remington now makes the Ultimate that is supposed to be accurate out to 300 yards. Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. Save Share. It shot really well at 100 yards, where I … He has done a lot of testing of the Remington Ultimate. The result allows the shooter to load up to 200 grains of powder for increased range, energy, and on-game performance. Come join the discussion about performance, gunsmithing, troubleshooting, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Thread starter BigD_625; Start date Apr 21, 2014; 1; 2; 3; Next. Got my Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader out to the range today. He went about 50 yards after the shot with a hole through his heart. Remington recommends repriming their brass 5 times, although they have gone up to 12 times. (I'm not sure how elk tags are handy out in NM.). New Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader. I a looking into a custom barrel for the Encore so I can just shoot bullets with out sabots. junk.... 1300 hundred dollars.. not a smokeless guy but I would build one in a heart beat every day of the week before I waste money on that. Lost in the woods. I only shoot loose powder . As expected, Remington's 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader has taken the market by storm. 2013 … I let the Ultimate Muzzleloader eat on a 8 pointer. It should generate about 40-45 lbs of recoil. The 45-70 will pound you to pieces with full loads, and I have never even tried full loads . Next Last. For a $1300 msrp, you can build a nice smokeless 700 for that. I'm officially disappointed. Remington introduced the Model 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader several years ago as ground-up redesign with claims of 300-yard accuracy and power driven by a new charging system. Read some reviews on the Remington Ultimate and some weren't very good for accuracy, saying 2-3 " groups at 100 yards. Apr 21, 2014 #1 BigD_625 New Member. I last had a muzzleloader tag about a decade ago so. I will be hunting in a state that allows optics, synthetic powder and sabots. Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader The Remington® 700 Ultimate™ Muzzeloader is Remington’s only muzzleloader, but that doesn’t stop Remington from packing this gun with the best features. I'm not sure though, this is the way I should go though. If you happen to have a sacrificial Rem. If they are cheap, the who cares but what is they sell out or something due to brass shortage or something. Remington Ultimate Muzzleloader -Remington has redefined the muzzleloader/ doubling your effective range and rivaling most centerfire for game-dropping performance. For that kind of dough I'll purchase another "hand cannon". To me the 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader feels and handles just like any one of my centerfire rifles, and that's what I like most. The Remington 700 ultimate boasts: accuracy to 300 yards... Having said that, my comfort zone with the muzzleloader (at least for now) is 200 yards. The Michigan Ultimate uses large rifle primers in a large pistol parent case (.45 Winchester Magnum). He even reported about the breech plugs in both guns. The Ultimate is also a more preferred single shot action. Definitely doesn't make it a 300 yard muzzleloader. Using 200 grains of Triple Seven Pellets in combination with Remington Premier AccuTip 250 grain muzzleloader bullets, the Model 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader gives the shooter the ability to reach velocities over 2400 fps. Well, if you have not had the ignition system upgraded then you are taking a big chance of ruining your breach plug. Past Hunting Indiana Youth Hunts. Since I didn't get drawn for any muzzle loader tags this year, I have not spent much time shooting it. Don't think I'd a made it past the first scope cut. Nowhere near good enough even at 50 yds. C. ... A forum community dedicated to Smith & Wesson firearm owners and enthusiasts. The report is under “Remington Model 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader Frequently Asked Questions.” To the OP, I owned a first generation Remington 700 Muzzleloader. Shooting 200 grains of Triple7 pellets and 250 grain Remington Premier AccuTip bullets. This gun is not set up for this much recoil at all. It's killed deer elk and Antelope all the way out to 400 yards. Gun is in excellent shape. The only difference from the Ultimate is the ignition system. While the new Model 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader may look somewhat similar to the previous Model 700 ML, it’s not the same. http://hunting.scout.com/story/1395762- ... ition?s=77, https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... _dM55a6FHY, http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/ ... ow-139216/, Anybody got some extra worm medicine laying around. The kick on a moderate hand load is truly unreal . Using 200 grains of Triple Seven Pellets in combination with Remington Premier AccuTip 250 grain muzzleloader bullets, the Model 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader gives the shooter the ability to reach velocities over 2400 fps. I don't believe the average Joe will give that kind of money for a muzzle loader. I have the muzzleloader barrel and a 45-70 Gov. all it will take is getting the pros signed on and they will fly off the shelf. Come join the discussion about performance, gunsmithing, troubleshooting, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Drew an elk tag this year that is restricted to muzzleloader. A couple of more states are considering "gun with what you brung". Now we can and it is a real game changer. when folks get tired of cleaning ect, screw a McGowan barrel on & let er rip lol. ScoutLook Editor Josh Dahlke shoots the Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader at 100, 200 and 300 yards. I guess Remington's back in the Muzzleloader business. He even reported about the breech plugs in both guns. I have one for sale with the b&c stock . So I have considered using a Remington receiver, a Sendora SS … What do you like about the 700 over the Encore? I bought the Remington UML (as of last Friday I now have two) to compare the three. 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